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Politics … ‘Just the facts’ really do not seem to matter in the face of ‘truth’

Strangely most people want to believe the worst. Seldom do facts matter when you can tell a great story about an evil threat and how your group (whomever that group is) is the only thing standing between evil and the loss of ______.

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Was reading a lament earlier today from someone that has been working their ass off to try to create a middle of the road group within the GOP: honest conservatives with a strong libertarian streak but not given over to hyperbole and appealing to emotion as the reason to do X, Y or Z.

Seems that the rug keeps getting pulled out from under them and/or they are finding a huge number of folks just seem to want to follow the ridiculous … facts are slung all over the place but seldom are the facts factual … and few seem to care.

How do you compete against that?

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Dear DogCatcher – Are you libertarian or not?

If being libertarian is being reliably fiscally responsible and socially liberal then yes I am libertarian.

Yet being libertarian often seems to go much further than that: there are no shortage of libertarians that believe that government is inherently almost evil and the kids on the playground, if left unbothered by government, would get along just fine because they would find a way to work it all out … on their own.

There are lots of other kids on the playground, and only a very few care about libertarian perspectives — although the general appeal of libertarianism is HUGE.

Once the kids start to play then reality sets in as they realize that only one ball is needed and only a few bats are needed for the game. Those that were there first with the ball and the several bats find that they have leverage over the others kids on the field … and so they usually make some special rules or threaten to take their ball and go home if they can’t … and they usually do … we all learn the rules as kids … when we are purist libertarians in our unstructured playgrounds.

Have kids meet two times in a row for almost anything and they will form a government with a hierarchy and a social order. Libertarianism is more of a guiding light rather than guidance for actual life.


I agree with lots of libertarian theory and thought. When given the opportunity I opt for minimal government interference in our lives and in our choices and freedoms. I believe in minimal taxation but also believe that taxes are an essential evil within our existence. Ultimately I try to be a pragmatist and so I also opt to support what are obviously non-libertarian positions as my primary position.

On a really, really, really good day a libertarian-minded candidate might get 5% of the vote in an election. That is a really, really, really good day. But blend in some pragmatism and many libertarians play quite nicely with the other kids on the playground, and the other kids will also play with them.

My brand of pragmatism also causes me to doubt the sincerity of some libertarians; libertarianism has its own internal spectrum of beliefs ranging from anarchism to corporatism (think Koch Brothers).

Claiming to be libertarian provides a great excuse for wanting government out of our lives so there is no one to play mediator as we shake down and empty the pockets of the public. Or playing as a libertarian is a great way to shift the burden of business costs onto the general public while minimizing our individual responsibility for taking care of our employees and providing them a decent wage and some meaningful benefits.

So if being libertarian is just being reliably fiscally responsible and socially liberal then yes I am libertarian.

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Election 2012 — The end is coming. The end is coming. And then winter is coming, too!

Election 2012 — The end is coming. The end is coming. And then winter is coming, too!

Please remember that the first warning of the end of the Republic was in 1800 when Jefferson crept into office — that damned non-Christian Unitarian do-gooder that believed in revolution every 20 years and thought that Muslims (Mohamadens) were fine people. Jefferson was the president that took our navy down to just 6 ships and cut the Army to barely 4 regiments … Jefferson then spent tax money to buy Louisiana and later wrote that he believed that his own actions were probably unconstitutional.

Jefferson was indeed revolutionary and perhaps our first and last libertarian president:

Jefferson slashed army and navy expenditures by half, cut the budget, eliminated taxes on whiskey, houses, and slaves, and fired all federal tax collectors. He reduced the army to 3,000 soldiers and 172 officers, the navy to 6 frigates, and foreign embassies to just 3 in Britain, France, and Spain.

During the winter months of his first term he spent time slicing and splicing parts of two New Testament Bibles specially ordered in large print from a Berlin, Germany printer because he wanted to get rid of all the nonsense in the Bible. We now know this as the Jefferson Bible, which is in use around the world in various languages (Spanish | German).

His opponent predicted that women’s virtues would be unprotected and quickly molested once Jefferson took office because he believed that government had no role in the relations between people … and … Jefferson was the ultimate boogeyman by rolling back the equivalent of the Homeland Security Act (the Alien and Sedition Acts) and upon inauguration declaring the will of the minority views in our society as also being of importance:

“The will of the majority is in all cases to prevail”, Jefferson declared. But, he added, “that will to be rightful must be reasonable; the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression”

The election of 1800 was radical and nasty, and yet the election of 1824 is still considered the nastiest in all of American history. Much of our current day politics evolved out of the bitter battles of 1824 and 1828 more so than the earlier elections which actually involved primarily our founders running for office.

There are times, such as in 1860, when we really are at the brink. Right now we are just generally spoiled children that want things our way and want our toys back if the other side refuses to play by our rules. This too shall pass.

Our nation has been at its probable end ever since it started. Thank God for the day after when all the ninnies end up so silly looking.

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Gary Johnson vs The Zombies … Strange, very strange.

Strange, very strange.

This video is not likely to gain many new votes … strange, very strange … Gary Johnson vs The Zombies … one of 2012’s stranger appeals to voters.

Did I mention ‘strange’? … and wearing a peace sign on his tshirt probably just cost him a few votes from Republicans that were otherwise looking for options.


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The Skeptical Libertarian says about being a GOP spoiler vote during 2012

Chances are good in 2012 that a majority of libertarians lean center-right and should favor Republicans.

Libertarians are a bit unpredictable. Leaning doesn’t mean pulling the lever.

From The Skeptical Libertarian, here is one view:

“A lot of people say that the Libertarian Party just works as a spoiler, because it can’t win. Well GOOD. That’s a valuable function: it penalizes the Republican Party for being anti-immigration, anti-gay, pro-war, and lousy on personal liberty. It shows that there’s a significant group of people who are fiscally responsible and are being alienated by the Republicans’ backward social priorities. That’s the kind of pressure we need to put on the GOP, since reforming it from within is evidently a failed project.”

“If it does nothing else but spoil the election for Romney, to me it will have served its purpose entirely.”

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Libertarian votes work for the good of the ____ party.

Libertarian votes work for the good of the ____ party depending upon the issue, or basket of issues.

Libertarians do not automatically vote left/right/center predictably.

Libertarians exist across a range of perspectives to include anarcho-individualists on the left and anarcho-capitalists on the right. These are ‘L’ibertarians, whereas many are just ‘l’ibertarians.

Both the Left and Right love to villify libertarians. I find that they are good people. Just like you are (probably) good people.

Since I normally get in trouble writing about about libertarians … have a good day!

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RINO & Conservative — I cheerfully accept both adjectives. Maybe ‘liberal’ fits too.

Yesterday a foam-at-the-mouth gentleman informed me that because of liberals like me that we were selling out our country.

Over the last year I have been called many things. We independents that are truly independent, and not just wolves or lambs hiding out masquerading among God’s other creatures, are considered dangerous — we are dangerous because we don’t align with party positions. We are not predictable.

Anyway, I came to my own defense in the discussion and pointed out that I am a conservative. I am a conservative that does not live on the edge of reality and foam-at-the-mouth upon demand. I can see a flag passing by and feel great pride without the kneejerk post-passage reaction to yell out: “And as soon as we deal with the liberals it will be a great country again.”

Alas it came to pass that defending my conservative credentials only got me called “RINO”.

RINO — Republican in name only — may be a slur to some but it no longer has sting. It is a lot like calling someone a liberal; a term recently renamed by those on the right wing as socialist Marxists. Please, someone buy these folks a dictionary … or point them to dictionary.com.

I am not Republican but you can call me RINO if you wish. RINO to me means a Republican independent enough to think for themselves and willing to vote that way. Absurd though it is to think that any still exist.

To make a long story somewhat shorter, I then explained that the word conservative also no longer has any real specific meaning within the U.S.

There are six major species of conservatives that now roam the wild within the U.S., maybe seven if Tea Partyer can be considered a subcategory of conservative. We could designate them fortis iratus american and let the New York Times study them.

Anyway, I consider myself a conservative. When I take a test such as the Nolan political type assessment I am a conservative. My clothes are conservative. My life is conservative. My beer is dark and usually porter. I drink both tea and coffee.

I am not however a social conservative. I lean strongly towards the libertarian side of conservatism — which is to say that when I say I support your right to enjoy your constitutional rights I actually mean it. We libertarian conservatives do not mouth the words like social conservatives do.

Now, on with the holy wars! Who shall we unnecessarily assault today? I love a good crusade. (Apologies to all of my Muslim friends. I was speaking figuratively).


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