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Wingnuts, Marxist Quiche Eaters and Idiots

Left – America – Right

So is the idiot that disagrees with you a Right Winger? A Leftist, Marxist quiche eater?

Well?!

What happened to just being plain about it?

Why not just say: ‘He’s a wuss that refuses to take the same position as me.’

Be a man about it. Just admit that the other guy is a moron because he doesn’t want to do it your way.

We Americans are just so into ‘us and them’. ‘Them’ is always the bad guy, and never right.

Definitions of American Political Labels

Left-wing and Right-wingers often sound like liberals and conservatives. The difference is that the wingers are not afraid to trample truth in order to achieve their political goals. “Propaganda” looks like gospel compared to what these folks put out. Propaganda is the truth with a little but important lie stuck in there somewhere. It is political spin. The facts and the tales that come out of the mouths of wingers are usually much closer to a big fat lie than it is to being good quality propaganda. Wingers have logic and veracity issues cloaked as liberalism or confused with being conservative.

Liberals and Conservatives both have principles and represent what is best in America. They just disagree. And while they may see truth differently, they both try to put America first. America is not a victim when these two meet — preferably over a beer or some other wholesome American pasttime. America is blessed because at the end of the day we all, liberal and conservative alike, are challenged in our views and there is wisdom and answers from both — with compromise usually encouraged upon us by moderates and progressives.

Centrists and Moderates are absolutely the finest blending of red, white and blue. These are perhaps the most practical of all Americans — their focus is on consideration of the facts and selecting the best solutions. Unlike liberals and conservatives they seldom have the hurdle of needing to get past their pride before getting on to finding an answer. Moderates seldom lead the way forward, however — which is hard to do when you are standing in the middle of America’s political intersection with heavy traffic coming and going both ways — calculating: the probability of the blue car hitting me is .04% less than that big truck coming … so I’ll … oops, need to recalculate. God bless them and protect them.

Progressives share many of the same challenges that centrists and moderates do, except they’ve figured out how to run like hell across the street when they see the lights change. Progressives are proactive, and made up of liberals, moderates and conservatives. Progressives live in the land of ‘why not?!’ … and are usually at the forefront of coalition building. Progressives often lead from both the left and the right at the very same time — because they are goal focused, yet take into consideration the bigger picture of not just tomorrow but the day after, too.

Warning: Progressives tend to be American independents. Don’t include them in your little party unless you are prepared for the occasional food fight. “I don’t think so” and “you are full of … stuffing” are two of their favorite phrases. Blend in some moderates that believe they are being taken advantage of and your party will be a real party.

I know that my definitions won’t suit everyone. But if you hear or read me using a political label then … please see above.

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You want good government? Or do you want the government that you deserve?

Want good government? Then don’t make excuses for bad government.

Want responsive government? Always question party-line votes. Political parties that put their survival and success first are major dragons among us.

Want others to be good, civil citizens? Then be one yourself, and find the courage to call out your fellow believers when they cross the line — and you know it happens across the political spectrum. No excuses.

Yes, there is always a lunatic fringe. Every group has them. The difference between a mob and a group is that groups have leaders that speak up. Does your group have leaders or just people pointing the way?

Great kudos goes to the The Hampton Roads (Virginia) Tea Party which has taken a very public stand for good citizenship: “The Hampton Roads Tea Party does not condone nor will it tolerate racism, sexism, or religious intolerance or bigotry in any form within the ranks of its membership or at any of its sanctioned events. Such beliefs, attitudes, and activities are contrary to the basic rights of all humankind as outlined in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence.”
— Hampton Roads Tea Party Board

We can argue about whether government is too large or not large enough. We could debate about how interest groups influence government in the wrong way — mostly your groups, not mine. But why?

I believe that the best course of action is to be agnostic about government. If the processes are in place to create a responsible and accountable government then the issues will work themselves out at the polling booth.

Where folks go a bit off the edge is when government patronizes them. Pandering may be an art form but it is not an acceptable process.

In discussing this, let us remember that sometimes we get the government that we deserve. If we work hard to make sure that our side wins and the other side loses — whether through procedure, issue manipulation, smoke and mirrors, whatever — then we will always have unresponsive government.

Let’s Slay Dragons Together

Bill4DogCatcher.com has a new project: I would like to see a coalition of the willing, those willing to focus on what brings us together, not pushes us apart.

I’m calling my new project — please don’t laugh or throw rotten stuff — the Coffee Party & Tea Party Coalition – a Bill4DogCatcher.com Project. Am exploring what can bring us together at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=102925266411916 (does anyone know how to point someone to a Facebook group with a better looking URL?).

The dragons that I want to slay are process-focused.

At the end of the day our anger and frustration comes not so much from knowing that the other side doesn’t appreciate our position on issues — of course, it’s not like you or I pay much attention to the what the other side is actually saying so why pretend?! — our anger and frustration comes from believing that the system is fixed! The outcome is almost preordained so why make the effort to be civil and logical? But we must try … we really, really must.

The Dragons That We Must Slay

Areas that I would like to see Coffee and Tea work together on — because the self-perpetuating political parties won’t:

  • A Balanced Budget Constitutional Amendment
  • A Term Limits Constitutional Amendment
  • A Taxation Transparency Act – up front accounting of categories of spending and who is getting what from whom.
  • Political Campaign Funding Transparency — Any contribution over $50-100 should have publicly available names attached.
  • Political Action Committee (PAC) Contribution Transparency — Do not make me wait and scramble to read various political candidate reports and match the numbers up. PAC contributions need to be publicly available records within 30 days of giving money to a candidate. We should be able to see that ABC Persuaders, Inc. gave $X to A, B and to Z.
  • Keep ’em Honest Promise Trackers – regardless of what party or part of the spectrum politicians live, are they keeping their ‘promises’? We have lots of ways to determine how liberal or conservative or libertarian or whatever someone is … but we have no common way of tracking how honest to their stated intentions they are.

There are many ways we can have more responsive government, but we must be willing to lay aside our issue differences to get to where we all want to be. Let’s avoid discussing issues. Let’s focus on creating processes that keeps government honest and moving forward.

So how would you slay dragons? Send your thoughts to Bill@Bill4DogCatcher.com or please visit the Coffee Party & Tea Party Coalition – a Bill4DogCatcher.com Project at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=102925266411916


This blog article originally appeared on 2010.03.23 as ‘Listerine Won’t Keep Dragons From Ruining Your Day. Time To Take On The Dragons!’ … Cute name but it violated a reality of journalism: what is your topic about. So … if you think you’ve read this article already then it ain’t deja vu at work.


Bill Golden is an independent observer of economics, politics and human resource management issues. Politically conservative but considers himself to be both Coffee & Tea. Solutions come from dealing with reality, not emotional responses.

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Listerine Won’t Keep Dragons From Ruining Your Day. Time To Take On The Dragons!

Want good government? Then don’t make excuses for bad government.

Want responsive government? Always question party-line votes. Political parties that put their survival and success first are major dragons among us.

Want others to be good, civil citizens? Then be one yourself, and find the courage to call out your fellow believers when they cross the line — and you know it happens across the political spectrum. No excuses.

Yes, there is always a lunatic fringe. Every group has them. The difference between a mob and a group is that groups have leaders that speak up. Does your group have leaders or just people pointing the way?

Great kudos goes to the The Hampton Roads (Virginia) Tea Party which has taken a very public stand for good citizenship: “The Hampton Roads Tea Party does not condone nor will it tolerate racism, sexism, or religious intolerance or bigotry in any form within the ranks of its membership or at any of its sanctioned events. Such beliefs, attitudes, and activities are contrary to the basic rights of all humankind as outlined in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence.”
— Hampton Roads Tea Party Board

We can argue about whether government is too large or not large enough. We could debate about how interest groups influence government in the wrong way — mostly your groups, not mine. But why?

I believe that the best course of action is to be agnostic about government. If the processes are in place to create a responsible and accountable government then the issues will work themselves out at the polling booth.

Where folks go a bit off the edge is when government patronizes them. Pandering may be an art form but it is not an acceptable process.

In discussing this, let us remember that sometimes we get the government that we deserve. If we work hard to make sure that our side wins and the other side loses — whether through procedure, issue manipulation, smoke and mirrors, whatever — then we will always have unresponsive government.

Let’s Slay Dragons Together

Bill4DogCatcher.com has a new project: I would like to see a coalition of the willing, those willing to focus on what brings us together, not pushes us apart.

I’m calling my new project — please don’t laugh or throw rotten stuff — the Coffee Party & Tea Party Coalition – a Bill4DogCatcher.com Project. Am  exploring what can bring us together at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=102925266411916 (does anyone know how to point someone to a Facebook group with a better looking URL?).

The dragons that I want to slay are process-focused.

At the end of the day our anger and frustration comes not so much from knowing that the other side doesn’t appreciate our position on issues — of course, it’s not like you or I pay much attention to the what the other side is actually saying so why pretend?! — our anger and frustration comes from believing that the system is fixed! The outcome is almost preordained so why make the effort to be civil and logical? But we must try … we really, really must.

The Dragons That We Must Slay

Areas that I would like to see Coffee and Tea work together on — because the self-perpetuating political parties won’t:

  • A Balanced Budget Constitutional Amendment
  • A Term Limits Constitutional Amendment
  • A Taxation Transparency Act – up front accounting of categories of spending and who is getting what from whom.
  • Political Campaign Funding Transparency — Any contribution over $50-100 should have publicly available names attached.
  • Political Action Committee (PAC) Contribution Transparency — Do not make me wait and scramble to read various political candidate reports and match the numbers up. PAC contributions need to be publicly available records within 30 days of giving money to a candidate. We should be able to see that ABC Persuaders, Inc. gave $X to A, B and to Z.
  • Keep ’em Honest Promise Trackers – regardless of what party or part of the spectrum politicians live, are they keeping their ‘promises’? We have lots of ways to determine how liberal or conservative or libertarian or whatever someone is … but we have no common way of tracking how honest to their stated intentions they are.

There are many ways we can have more responsive government, but we must be willing to lay aside our issue differences to get to where we all want to be. Let’s avoid discussing issues. Let’s focus on creating processes that keeps government honest and moving forward.

So how would you slay dragons? Send your thoughts to Bill@Bill4DogCatcher.com or please visit the Coffee Party & Tea Party Coalition – a Bill4DogCatcher.com Project at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=102925266411916


Bill Golden is an independent observer of economics, politics and human resource management issues. Politically conservative but considers himself to be both Coffee & Tea. Solutions come from dealing with reality, not emotional responses.

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Coffee Party wants Conservative opinions. How to give yours!

The Coffee Party wants your opinion.

Yesterday I met one-on-one with Annabel Park for more than an hour. Annabel is one of the Coffee Party principal founders.

We discussed a wide range of topics, and how conservatives view the Coffee Party.

Yes, I know that some folks are working hard to say that the Coffee Party is just a conspiracy to distract Americans by getting them to talk to each other civilly, or that George Soros (or pick your favorite boogeyman) is pulling the strings.

However, I’ve met with the Coffee Party founders three or four times over the last week — and I don’t believe that my conservative credentials or beliefs can be questioned: I oppose Obamacare, want term limits, want a balanced budget constitutional amendment, am an NRA-card carrying gunowner, and I’ve served my country in uniform for 20+ years. I  still serve my country.

Since our one-on-one, Annabel and I have spoken several times. She wants to know what YOU think.

HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD

Participants in Coffee Party meetings could just yada, yada, yada all day long … and with free refills that does indeed happen … but that doesn’t mean that anything gets said that can be portrayed as a trend, or as what a group of people actually believe.

To better understand areas of agreement, disagreement — and even topics without any apparent patterns of agreement at all — the Coffee Party is using something called the ‘Coffee Sphere’.

The Coffee Sphere sits on the homepage at http://www.coffeepartyusa.com/ — below is what the ‘sphere’ looks like.

Bill4DogCatcher.com sez: It may look like a poll or a survey, but it is much, much more. The sphere collects opinions and groups them within categories such as self-described “liberal” or “conservative” or “very conservative”. It gives folks a chance to represent their group values.

So what do conservatives believe, not believe, and agree upon?  I encourage you to make your voice heard by taking the  Coffee Sphere experience. Learn more about how the sphere works and how it correlates your opinion with other folks’ thoughts.

Shy? Don’t give your real name or email address; just take the sphere and signup as your favorite cartoon character or whatever.

Thanks! Bill@Bill4DogCatcher.com

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Note to Progressive Republicans: Teddy Roosevelt Left A Message. It is 1912 Again.

Lately I’ve taken to calling myself a RINO. It is almost a source of pride with me at this point. It bothered me at first. No longer.

“The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others.” — Theodore Roosevelt, 1903.

I am a realist about things in life. My party is in disarray. It will stay that way for many years to come. It will be a decade or longer before the Republican Party possibly heals the internal rifts that grow with  each day.

The Republican Party now has three major factions: centrist Progressives (45%), traditional Conservatives (35%), and ultra-Conservatives (20%). All are conservative in the core sense: belief in smaller government, stronger national security, minimalist government intrusion into our personal lives and our freedoms, and fiscal responsibility.

Within both the progressive and conservative base are even more fracturous alliances: social conservatives, paleoconservatives, neoconservatives, fiscal conservatives, and libertarians (which also straddle the world of classic liberalism).

Bottomline: the primary fault line runs about 45% Progressive and 55% Conservative. We Progressives see ourselves as conservative, but to those further right we are just RINOs.

Even before Barack Obama won the presidency there were calls to strengthen the Republican Party throught purge of all but its most conservative members. There is seldom a day that goes by without a renewed call to oust us RINOs – a witch hunt really since we embrace the same core conservative beliefs as other Republicans.

Since the 2008 elections, we Progressives have spent a great deal of time wondering how best we can help our party heal, how to make it better, stronger, electable. My conclusion is that we cannot. Not immediately.

Roosevelt calls out to us: Stop trying. There are just times when there is no sense pursuing the conversation. Pursue your own course. Reach for success on your own. Do not chase the conservatives asking them to accept you. They won’t. They have no need for you. They have no care for your cause. They are self-absorbed. Proudly wear the moniker of “Progressive”.

So our course must be Roosevelt’s course. Just as he declared independence  from the Republican party leaving Taft to make his own case to the American people,  we Progressives must let the Conservatives sink or swim based upon their own merits. It is with deep sorrow that the party that Reagan helped build to such great success is now a regional political party.

For now, and for perhaps as much as a decade, we must focus on supporting other Progressives as long as they embrace and support minimalist government intrusion into our personal lives and our freedoms, minimalist government, strong defense and fiscal responsibility.

And we must preserve our faith in what makes us Progressives: “Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong”, Theodore Roosevelt, 1916.

So on issues like health care, the environment, national security, the economy and the protection of individual freedoms we must be reformers. We must realize that there is no difference between an overreaching government and non-competitive businesses which monopolize or control the marketplace. Both seek what isn’t theirs. As Progressives we must seek balance (not guaranteed outcomes) so that every American has the opportunity to live free, to prosper, and to grow America as its people believe fit — not special interests whether left or right, whether government or industry. All must be accountable to we the people.

We must also support those Conservatives that are open-minded and worthy of our support — meaning that they support our causes where we are compatible, and us theirs.

“There is not a man of us who does not at times need a helping hand to be stretched out to him, and then shame upon him who will not stretch out the helping hand to his brother,” said Roosevelt.

We too are conservative and if that tent is large enough then we’ll be there.

But for now, we should stop trying to figure out where we fit in the Republican party. It is a waste of effort.

The Party will find us again when recurring electoral defeats finally move the party from denial back to reality. It won’t be easy. While we should speak no evil of a fellow Republican, we should not hesitate to point out what is right and what is not.

If we want the people to believe us then we must be believable.

“The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others.” — Theodore Roosevelt, 1903.

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